i want to compress a movie that is interlaced. The original contains some noise so i also want to use the denoise feature of tmpegenc. Since the source is interlaced i want to deinterlace to. My question is if denoising works with interlaced pictures and when i choose to deinterlace AND denoise if the deinterlacing is done first. It seems to me this should happen but i dont really know. Hope some pro-user out there is able to give me some info.

This, indeed, is not straightforward and should NOT be done with TMPGEnc if you want state-of-the-art results.

VirtualDub is best for learning and experimenting, otherwise AVISynth scripting is more efficient.

You need to separate the fields, apply the filter, and put the fields back together. In Virtualdub this is done with suboptions of the built-in deinterlace filter. It also might be a good idea to expand the separated fields vertically and squish them back before and after the filters.

Don't do a "Bob" deinterlace. That shifts the position of the fields and makes it hard to "re-interlace". (When viewed at 60fps, separated fields should have 1/2 pixel vertical jitter.)

There are a plethora of noise filter plugins available for Virtualdub (and AVISynth). Start at home pages www.virtualdub.org and www.avisynth.org. One called "Smart Smoother High Quality" is slow but works miracles.

Use Huffyuv encoded video for the best performace/quality tradeoff.

Feel proud that you are doing with free software what some people pay hundreds of dollars to do.

The previous only applies to native video sources. 24fps film that has been "telecined" into 30fps video requires inverse telecine (IVTC) which is explained in numerous places.

Noisy film is hard to IVTC but some of the better IVTC filters account for noise internally when trying to match frames.

thx for the reply

I dont know exactly what u mean (i.e. "expand the separated fields vertically and squish them back before and after the filters"), but im sure i will find out when i'll get bussy with it. Now u have pointed me in the right direction i know i will get the best results. One question: have u compared the tmpegenc denoiser urself. I have used it several times and i can't imagine the result becoming any better. Conserning the speed.... i dont care how long it takes; quality is the only thing that matters. But i noticed that eaven tmpegenc isnt very fast when denoiseing is turned on in the default settings (rough estimate: about 1/10 of the real spead).

a happier user

There are dozens of noise filters available for those other tools and they have extreme tuning parameters. You could probably work on this for a year and still keep getting better! Rapid A/B comparison of still frames is the only way to see how methods compare.

Another alternative is to deinterlace and denoise in TMPGEnc. Assuming it deinterlaces before denoising, the result can be good.

"Assuming it deinterlaces before denoising, the result can be good."
this is exactly what i wanna know

"There are dozens of noise filters available for those other tools and they have extreme tuning parameters. You could probably work on this for a year and still keep getting better!"

i would rather have the best results immediately :) thats why i liked the no fuss approuch with the tmpgenc denoiser, but ill have a go with the advanced smoother, and look if the results are comparable

Is there any way to see what the size of the output file is going to be before performing the tast? Much like the one in the Wizard, but there it does not allow to change the framesize and I'm always stuck with 312x240 instead of 352x240 which certainly affects the filesize.

Actually NO, The Resolution has absolutly No effect of the File size, The only 2 things that effect the file size is the Length of the Movie (In Time) and the Bitrate used to encode that File, the Resolution has No Effect at all..Why are you "Stuck" with "312+240"??? this is Not a Standard Resolution for any format..To estimate the File size for a Certain Bitrate and Length of Movie you should use a "Bitrate Calculator" there are Many some Better than others, the One I use is called "XVCD Bitrate Calculator 1.1" it use it for VCD SVCD and even DVD"s, it can be downloaded at a Number of Places just do a Search on Google for it...

How do you use it? I played around with it and it doesn't seem to do anything... I'm trying to FADE OUT the last few seconds of the clip. How exactly do you do that?

It seems Pretty Self explanitory, you Just click the Fad in or Fad out Box and put in the Length of time you want the Fade out to last....

I just started to use this TMPGEnc and i think it is great because I was able to convert avi to VCD. However, some of the avi that I convert could only hear sound and I only see blank black screen. Only some of them are like that and others are working fine. I wonder what is wrong. Am I missing a codec or a beta or something. Can anyone please reply to this?? Thanks

Azn

"options" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi Plugins" and Raise the "Direct show" to "2"...

This is only a test.

We are conducting test....

Testing 1..2..3...testing....yeh it works thanks.

In another forum I once read a post from someone stating that:

"TMPGEnc can suffer from a "pulsing" artifact in which every half-second (no doubt related to the I-frame rate) the background appears very slighly brighter momentarily. It does not always happen. It is usually faint and you might not notice it on casual viewing."

Has anyone else noticed this? Is the 5.13 (latest) version affected by this defect?

Thank you.

That's not a bug, it's the result of very low Bitrates on Pictures with low contrast.

I have encoded a number of short clips into Mpeg 2 vbr that will not open in edit mode. I get a mesage stating that Direct Show will not open the file. I am eiter missing a plug in or have the wrong one prioritized. I have tried numerous reorganizations but have been unsuccessful. I am using XP Home.

Any suggestions?

You need a Specific Mpeg2 decoder Installed to edit Mpeg files in Tmpgenc, Either the Cyberlink Decoder or the Ligos Decoder, as direct show can not open Mpeg2 files...The Merge & Cut does not support the accurate editing of VBR encoded Streams anyways so you should use a Real Mpeg2 editor Like "Womble Mpeg2VCR", Editing and Joining VBR encoded Streams in Tmpgenc will usually Cause Sync problems...

Hi I've read here thtat I should set my Divx Downloaded movies for burning to DVD's to CQ 6000/1000, DC=10, 720*480.... and motion to high.

But I'm unsure what I should set the CQ quality to 80 or 100.

This is assuming the movies I download are 1 1/2 hours dvd rips and I want them on max quality and burned to one DVD.

Thanks,

I wouldn't recommend setting the minimum setting any lower than 2000kb/s.
The absolute lowest setting you can have without getting any macroblocks in a regular movie is 1800kb/s any lower and you WILL encounter some blockiness.
If your movie is only 1 1/2 hrs long then I think you should get away with setting the slider to 80.

And another Thing is that Most Downloaded DivX Movies have a Very Small Resolution usually something like "352+240" or Something simular, these Files are Not the best to Resize to 720+480 as you will Loose a Lot of the Detail and Crispness Up-sizeing the Resolution that Much..You might Consider depending on the Resolution of the AVI file Useing one of the Other DVD Standards like "352+240/288-pal or 352+480/576-Pal" resolutions, they Might be better to use that the Standard 720+480 resolution, and useing these Lower Resolutions you can use a Much lower Bitrate there for you can get much more on each DVD-/+r...Useing the 352+240/288-Pal resolution I have gotten up to 3 Full movies on a DVD I have even gotten 3 full movies Encodeing to SVCD resolutions and Putting them on a DVD as a Non-Standard DVD....Good Luck...Cheers

How to fix my crack sounD?
When i rec my file into avi format the sound is ok (no crack sound)
but after i convert using tmpge into mpeg vcd format i hear crack sound in some of the part of my video... how to fix it?
How come got crack sound?

Well Try going to "Options" to "Enviromental settings" to "Audio engine" and set the Sample rate converter to "High Quality", and if that doesn"t work then use a Totally seperate encoder to encode the audio to Mpeg1 Layer 2 audio...

When I try to load a mpeg2 into TMPG plus to convert to Mpeg 1 I get a message that TMPG is generating errors and will now shut down. I am using W2k, an Asus P4pe board, 3.06 P4, and a Gig of memory. There is plenty of space on the HD. I can't find the error log, any idea where it is placed? Any ideas of researching this. I have tried updating to the latest, uninstalling and reinstalling.

thanks.

I often have more than one inputfile which I need to encode into one mpegfile for dvd. Since I would like to have the average bitrate the same for all parts it takes a bit of trial on error to have it right if one has to encode each inputfile one at a time, even using the batch functionality. I don't think much (tried one) of those avicutter/merger programs. VirtualDub cannot read my files as they have the DV format (camrecorder->firewire->studio8.5).
May be TMPGenc have this merge (AVI input) functionality already and I can't see it ?

I already know about AviSynth / VirtualDub frameserving. I am asking if TMPGEnc has a hidden function to read more than one AVI-files .

Yes it does.
Go to Option>Enviromental setting>General then check the 'Open sequence files as movie' option now number your files in sequence and they should all load in that sequence.

Thanks a lot to Ashy. That's just the job. Tried all sorts, DV-1.avi, DV-2.avi, or xxx-n.avi (where n = 1 or 01 or 001 or 0001).
Of course avisynth2 is a good thing too, but I like to know TMPGEnc can work standalone.
I like TMPGEnc every day a bit more.

Bear with me. Could you show me step by step, how to "number your files in sequence and they should all load in that sequence."

Many thanks!

kk